Playing With Fire
Playing With Fire is a gripping podcast hosted by Bryan Spitulski—a former firefighter turned fire investigator—who brings a frontline perspective to the world of fire. From the chaos of first response to the quiet resilience of recovery, Bryan takes listeners deep into the personal and professional realities of firefighting and fire investigation.
Through candid conversations with firefighters, paramedics, investigators, scientists, and—most importantly—survivors of some of the most devastating fires in recent history, the podcast explores how fire transforms lives, departments, neighborhoods, and entire communities.
Listeners will hear firsthand from those who lost everything, those who fought to save what they could, and those rebuilding from the ashes. Each episode unpacks the emotional toll, systemic challenges, and acts of heroism that emerge in the wake of disaster.
With compassion, insight, and unflinching honesty, Playing With Fire shines a light on stories that need to be told—stories of loss, hope, innovation, accountability, and the enduring human spirit.
Playing With Fire
Charles “Chuck” Butler (former Captain - Modesto Fire Department) - Vol. 02
Playing With Fire
Episode 05: Charles “Chuck” Butler (former Captain - Modesto Fire Department) - Vol. 02
Bryan Spitulski has Charles “Chuck” Butler back on the show, who was a former Captain of the Modesto, California Fire Department and Bryan's first captain as he began his career as a firefighter.
Recorded: 08-04-25
Studio: Just Curious Media
Host:
Bryan Spitulski
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